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there was a report that intelligence suggested an attack in benghazi saying that report was absolutely untrue. meanwhile, while authorities say that the attack in benghazi was carefully planned and coordinated, it is still unclear whether it was in response to the antiislam film or something timed to coincide with the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, or frankly, it could have been both. we just heard secretary of state, hillary clinton speak directly to the people of the region, saying that folks in libya, egypt, and yemen, did not trade the tyranny of a dictator for the tyranny of a mob. the ceremony had a message to americans. that is that the four people who came home today for their final time were all american heroes, who gave their likes for their country. the president, the white house and the state department have been giving out a couple of messages the past two days. the first is that u.s. government had absolutely nothing to do with this anti-islam film although it was produced in this country. that's a tough message to get across to the arab spring where people are used to di
>> want to tell you the libyan government has condemned the attack in benghazi strongly saying it coincides with acts for those who seek to hamper democratic aspirations. thank you for watching everybody. i am megyn kelly. >> new questions on whether it was a targeted hit. topping the news today the united states ambassador to libya is dead along with three other americans after a violent attack on a consulate in that country. there are enormous questions who is responsible waudz it a planned terror attack? after wall it was on 9-11. who brings rocket propelled grenades to a demonstration. we will get into all of the new breaking details and very serious concerns in america and around the world. at the same time the president perhaps looking into the israeli government over differences of opinion in iran. the big and complicated picture coming up. it's all ahead as breaking news has changed everything on studio b. >> first from fox at 3:00 the deadly attack on the consulates in libya yesterday on 9-11 was a well planned commando style raid. coming to us from the chairman of the
and violent death in benghazi. continuing coverage on all this on "happening now" starts right now. we'll see you here tomorrow. jenna: thank you, bill and martha. we start off with this fox news alert on the fallout on deadly attack on americans in the middle east. levens years to the day from 11. that is important as as we continue to explore the story i i'm jenna lee. jon: is the timing more than a coincidence? i'm jon scott. the white house ordered beefed up security at diplomatic posts around the world after an angry mob goes on a rampage in benghazi, libya. firing machines guns and rocket propelled grenades. it was outraged over an film from by an american that insults the prophet muhammad. it killed the ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. stevens becomes the first ambassador killed in the line of duty in more than three decades. libya not the only scene of violence directed at americans. hours before equip -- egyptian rioters scaled the wall the embassy in cairo pulling down the american flag and replacing it with at black flag similar to the one used by al qaeda. presi
the administration's narrative that benghazi was not a premeditated terrorist attacks is now fraying at the edges. a u.s. intelligence source telling me no firm conclusions have been reached. that the former guantanamo detainee, known extremist, whose operation is in eastern libya is under the microscope. there was no significant or sizable demonstration outside the consulate at 9:35 p.m. when the attack unfolded. in simple terms there was no demonstration that spun out of control with extremists hijacking the crowd and assaulting the consulate in two ways. a u.s. intelligence officials left the door to other al qaeda op atives. kudo seems to check all the books. was a member of lfig, the libyan group. this group trained fighters to afghanistan and iraq. and the lfig has been known to send fighters to syria. bill: they were blaming the film for a time and apparently that will go to the wayside. how does the administration explain the disconnect of the explanation anything? >> reporter: after the head of the counterterrorism center confirmed at the open hearing this was a terrorist attack the whit
.n. as the obama administration explanation of the attack in benghazi continues to einvolve this morning. secretary of state hillary clinton suggesting in a gathering of world leaders that the attack was the work of an al qaeda affiliate. the secretary saying this. now with a larger safe haven and increased freedom to maneuver, terrorists are seeking to extend their reach and networks in multiple directions. they're working with other violent extremists to undermined the democratic transitions underway in north africa as we tragically saw in benghazi. that is the first time secretary clinton acknowledged al qaeda as possibly playing a role in that attack. we'll have more on that coming up. a group of senators are now demanding that susan rice, america's ambassador to the u.n., provide more answers what happened in benghazi. new hampshire senator, kelly ayotte one of those four senators who sent a scathing letter to ambassador susan rice, she will be here to tell us first-hand what that is all about. bill: meantime the violence in syria getting worse by the day. a pair of massive explosions rocking
praised. >> the people of benghazi sent this message loudly and clearly on friday when they forcefully rejected the extremists in their midst and reclaimed the honor and dignity of a courageous city. >>shepard: there are still big questions as to whether the libyan government has the muscle to get the army, rather, the militias under control. on top of that, the government relies on the militias for security after the fall of muammar qaddafi. >>reporter: it is less than three hours for the rogue militias to disband and government officials telling me it is going better-than-expected and the libyan security forces are taking the place of militants at bases here in tripoli and across the country. in benghazi, two militias under nominal government control were replaced by military officers. in benghazi, which was the scene of the dramatic protest and attack aimed at militants over the weekend, another protest, today, against a brigade thought responsible for a recent killing. some experts say this is a tactical withdrawal by the militia and the same government official indicated to me the
in benghazi over the past couple months. we've been hearing in our time on the ground here, at least to some degree, the militants, militia very much in charge in benghazi. gregg? gregg: we're hearing there is a protest and counter protest in libya. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: interesting stuff. protests planned in benghazi a big change from others we're seeing around the world in favor of the u.s. or at least honoring the late u.s. ambassador and other americans. but the broader message from the citizens there that the government based here in tripoli needs to do more to crack down on militant groups in benghazi. the problem is, another protest, gregg, is planned at the same place, at the same time by one of those militant groups. an outfit of ansar al-sharia suspected having links to the killing. they said they are innocent. they will be saying that today, maybe in a forceful day. we'll be monitoring it all. back to you. gregg: greg palkot in tripoli. greg, thanks. martha: the white house is doing a complete reversal on the characterization of the attack in libya. the adm
. they were killed at or around the u.s. consulate in benghazi. this is the eastern side of libya. this happened overnight. stevens was a career diplomat. spent several stints in libya. the type of dedicate the american diplomat we come across all the time in that region. secretary clint said he was committed to america's values and interests. this was all about attack on the consulate by islamists protesting the film made in the united states critical of the muslim prophet mohammed. getting a lot of play on the internet. consulate burned down the vehicles perhaps the one in which the ambassador and other americans were hit by rockets. we heard from the leadership of the libyan government. they say they are sorry that they are looking for those responsible. one group being now thought as a possible suspect with allegiances to al qaeda but there are a lot of militant groups as we can tell you from our experience on the ground in libya in post-qaddafi era. bill: what can we report about what is happening in the region today, greg? >> reporter: seems like the chronology, bill, this w
in benghazi was a terrorist attack with press secretary jay carney saying yesterday every step of the way the information that we have provided to you and the general public about the attack in benghazi has been based on the best intelligence we've had and the assessments of our intelligence community. carney also told reporters even though the president still not publicly called this a terrorist attack, since he is are obama's spokesman, and he gave it that label we should all know what the commander-in-chief thinks it was. bill: so now we're hearing from democrats who demand answers from the administration. what are they saying, peter? >> reporter: 10 democrats and nine republicans on the senate foreign relations committee chaired by democrat john kerry wrote the state department, they want to know if the u.s. had any intelligence a possible attack and if security forces assigned to our missions were well-equipped and what the forces did to protect personnel when they came under fire. one republican on the committee says the story right now just does not add up. >> the responses have be
with the benghazi demonstration. as the investigation moves forward, hundreds of protesters in yemen chanted death to america. bill: in tune, further the west, protesters gathering outside the american embassy waving black islamic flags, chanting anti-american slogans and pictures of usama bin laden. jennifer griffin is the at pentagon. let's start in london with greg palkot on the ground in yemen. what is the latest being reported there, greg? >> reporter: we've been to the embassy a few times. we've been talking to our contacts on the grand there in sanaa, yemen. we believe the situation is calm around the u.s. embassy. it was anything but earlier today. i'm told thousands of protesters gathered outside of the building and some of those managed to get their way in. at least to scale the perimeter wall. to break you there the main gate to enter the security building to get into the compound before the main embassy building. they torched cars, smashed windows and stole equipment. the security guards tried to hold them off. fired shots in the area. that didn't work. yemeni security forces came in,
administration, as lawmakers have now sent a letter to james clapper demanding answers on benghazi attack. of considers, yesterday we were talking about james clapper. friday, his office coming out and basically staking responsibility for the intelligence failures. well, now, senator joe lieberman and others coming forward with this letter. >> alisyn: and also, who is going to take responsible for the tactffactactfufact-- spblt for three weeks later. 20 days past the september 11th attacks and fbi isn't in benghazi, they're in tripoli, for security reasons they say, they say that the libyan security forces aren't providing them with security and some sort of visa problem. this is unheard of. so, senator bob corker and joe lieberman among others, they want answers from clapper about why it's happening. >> dave: to the point at that tony schaeffer made on our program yesterday, he's worked with the fbi, some of the toughest and highly technically trained individuals on the planet. comfortable going into hostile zones like benghazi, it must not be an internal reason, it must be someone else
americans. bill: america's ambassador killed in the benghazi consulate attack being called a hero today by libya's ambassador to the u.s. he is condemning thecks ane deaths a great loss. he shared memories of his friendship with ambassador chris stevens. >> i've known chris for the last six years. we played tennis together. we drive in one car and we had some traditional libyan food in my house. i must tell you, madam secretary and tell the american people, that chris is a hero. he is a real hero. he is a man who believed in the libyans and believed in the ability they will achieve the democracy after 42 years. bill: ambassador aujali went on to say that ambassador stevens was welcomed by the people of lib. >> and urged america to continue to support his country. saying we need help not only during war but also during peace. bill: we're getting reaction from ambassador stevens stepbrother. he said steve always looked for the positive side in every situation. listen to some of this. >> he was about bringing people together. being able to listen to a palestinian and israeli and theoretica
. sources are telling fox news they are convinced the attack in benghazi was directly tied to al qaeda and they believe a former detainee at the u.s. detention center in guantanamo bay may have led the assault. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us live from washington of the catherine, we learning about the former detainee? what do we know now? >> reporter: good morning ub ba. according to the file sufyan qumu had direct ties going back to 1993 when he traveled to afghanistan and trained at bin laden's camp. in addition to the 20 year relationship with the al qaeda leader, qumu is tied to a. the assessment states, quote the libyan government considers the detainee a dangerous man who has no qualms about committing terrorist acts. fox news is also told that there are small scale camps run by extremists in libya, while not established training camps like we once saw in afghanistan prior to 9/11 the zones of activity we're told are around benghazi where the attack on the consulate be took place, darnah. and southwest libya. the u.s. intelligence community are watch
in cairo. as a consequence of the video. our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what transpired hours before in cairo, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo, which were prompted of course by the video. what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what it began spontaneously in benghazi, as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in cairo. megyn: joining me now, simon rosenberg, president and founder of ndn think tank and former advisor to president clinton. mark these send, fellow at american enterprise institute and former speechwriter for president george w. bush. mark, what the intel services are telling us now is that not only was what she said not true, but this administration knew it wasn't true and they knew it for several days. not only did they know this was a terrorist attack, but, they knew it had been listed officially inside the government as a terrorist attack. that they were searching for the suspects. that it was an attack on u.s. soil, which a u.s.
the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. four americans were killed including our ambassador to libya but when asked about the attack president obama wouldn't give a clear answer exactly what happened. as you by now know the obama administration insisted the deadly violence grew out of a spontaneous protest. for the first time yesterday white house press secretary said this. it is i think self-evident that what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. our embassy was attacked violently and the result was four deaths of american officials. doug mckelway is live at white house now. doug, what is the latest from the white house there this morning? >> reporter: arthel, seemed after that statement that you just read from jay carney aboard air force one yesterday, after so many mixed signals from the white house and mixed messages from monday that would signal some kind of alignment in white house messaging. after the plane, air force one landed in miami for the univision forum yesterday, the president obama sent an entirely different signal. here's the president. >> what we've seen ove
of two weeks now. that is what happened in benghazi? why was the message coming out of the administration so muddled at best and misleading at worse? when did they know that it was a terrorist attack? why won't the president actually use the term terrorist attack? well, yesterday there was a major break through and one agency came out and took responsibility. >> in fact, it was james clapper's office, the director of national intelligent basically trying to take the onus off the white house by saying hey it was the intelligence community's fault and said, this quote: in the immediate aftermath there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day in cairo. we provided that initial assessment to the executive branch officials and members of congress who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available. through the our investigation we continued to emphasize that our information was preliminary and evolving. >> we were waiting for someone like james clapper or tom donilin to weigh
in the streets. in libya, an investigation underway on the deadly assault on a u.s. post in benghazi. this was the scene yesterday after what is now being called a coordinated attack that ended with four americans dead, including one of our most valued ambassadors, chris stevens. in yemen hundreds of protesters stormed the u.s. embassy grounds chanting "death to america," a phrase we have heard in so many places over the past 48 hours. while in iraq demonstrators trampling on the stars and stripes, setting our flag on fire and showting anti-american and anti-israeli chants. in just a few minutes we will speak with one of the foremost authorities on the middle east when dr. henry kissinger joins us life with his take on what -- live with his take on what we are seeing right now on this earth. but first we go to leland vittert who has just arrived in cairo. his photographer is not there yet, so he is coming with us via laptop, and the situation is precarious. leland? >> reporter: well, so long as the laptop the balcony, we're going to be okay, megyn. we're about 18 stories up, and you
on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. american violence is beginning to show signs of slowing, but tensions remain high. the state department is evacuating all family members and non-u.s. government personnel from tunisia and the sudan. we have a reporter on the ground in tunisia. >> reporter: shannon, no wonder the state department is concerned. we are back from the area around the u.s. embassy compound here in tunis. we scpaw heard amazing things. today, the compound is secure, tukneesian military very much present. but we are told they were nowhere to be found during key moments on friday, as protesters scaled the wall, mashed up the place before they were driven out. more shocking, is what we saw next door at the american school, that's a k-12, where over 600 kids of foreign parent, including 100 american children. take a look. at noon on friday, the playground at this tukneesian school would have been filled with young kids, some of them american. then the administrators got word that a violent protest was happening across the street at the u.s. embassy and the protesters could be comi
: earlier obama was on "the view" and spoke about the attacks in benghazi but won't call it terrorism. listen to this. >> there is no doubt that the weapon used, ongoing assault, it wasn't just a mob action. the attacks on zillians in benghazi were attack on america. no doubt we'll be relentless to track down the killers and bring them to justice. >> dana: charles krauthammer thinks he knows why. >> this objective between now and november nothing happens in the world as if he can stop it, but ignore the middle east, ignore the iranian problem, ignore the debt ceiling and the cliff. get over the finish line. >> dana: this is your sound bite. it messed it up. i remembered something, it's not thingous do in america to trip you up in a campaign but things that happen to you. >> andrea: they are tripped up for a long time. listening to the speak at the u.n. cognitive dissonance was astounding. first the president came out and said that the defensive free people reflects universal value. then he says true democracy demands citizens cannot be thrown in jail for what they believe. but we arre
.s. away chris stovens and three other americans in benghazi, libya. sources say u.s. intense knew in 24 hours that it was a terrorist attack with possible limps to al qaeda. addressing the nation after the morning after the deadly siege president obama said this. >> no act of terror will shake the resolve of this great nation. or change that change or eclipse the light of the values we stand for. today we mourn for more americans who represent the very best of the united states of america. >>shepard: an acknowledgment this was a terror attack? you decide. what we know is in the days that followed, the message from the administration was very clear. >> based on what we know, and now, and knew at the time, we have no evidence of a pre-planned or premeditated attack. >> it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >>shepard: that was the ambassador to the united nations referring to an antiislam video that want viral. she said the same thing on all five sunday morning television shows. top administration officials now say what happened i
in benghazi and what they did with that information the. the state department confirming it knew of possible protests in egypt and it passed on intelligence to u.s. personnel working and living there. listen. >> when we had the difficulty there is was actually minimal staff in the building because we were already alerted and we alerted the egyptians as well. bill: what about libya then? the violence, what many describe as a coordinated assault, all hoe though the white house will not call it that. what did they know about libya and why it is being describeds a terrorist attack. that is coming up with kt mcfarland, steve hayes and a load of other. >> call it the tale of the dueling tapes. we're getting new reaction from the romney camp after the governor's comments at a private fund-raiser were leak need yaw. now a recording from president obama's past is also getting some attention. the then state lawmaker in this video talks about spreading the wealth. >> i think the trib is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution beca
in the consulate in benghazi in eastern libya, there is a cross border aspect to this story that is making right now in tunis. and another aspect of the story tunisia, like other countries are being hard-hit by the united states to stop the radicalism we see here in wake of the arab spring. they told me they did not see the tunisia step between the protests of the islamist and protestors the other friday that did knowledge damage to the u.s. embassy, and its compound and a school nearby where about a hundred american kids were staying until about two hours before the protest. there with us a demand coming from the americans that the tunisia act against these radicals. and there was a taunt in that too. tunisia looking to america to fork over half a billion dollars in needed money over the next year to payoff loans in this economy. there is a bit of a taunt there too by the united states that, hey you come through there and then maybe we can come through with this. back to the breaking news, we'll get a hard confirm when we get our crew on the ground seeing this. about a thousand security surroun
there was no significant or sizable demonstration when the attacks unfolded sometime after 9:35 p.m. in benghazi on 9/11. in simple terms this was not an ongoing demonstration that spiraled out of control. quote, there was no protests and attacks were not spontaneous the intelligence source said. the libyan attack was planned and had nothing to do with the movie. according to fox news's official a u.s. official did not dispute the account and talked about at small demonstration this consulate as how many separated the attack in the even u.s. official could not say adding it part of the investigation. quote, while everything is still under investigation, the available information suggests that the protests in cairo inspired what the attackers decided to do later that night in benghazi. right now this points to a plan that was hatched opportunisticly on that day. while the libyan government as well was senior members of congress briefed on the attack call it terrorism and they say it was premeditated the state department spokeswoman would still not go that far. >> again i'm not going to put labels on t
by military and military police. all this started earlier in the weekend in the eastern city of benghazi. where we saw the public rise up and ransack and storm a compound of another militant group there. they say they have had enough. following the attack, the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in the city and a string of other incidents associated with these militants. analysts i speak to are a little bit skeptical they think it might be a tactical retreat for the militants but certainly a move in the right direction. martha: could be. how does all this impact the fbi investigation going on there into the death of ambassador stevens and three other americans? >> reporter: martha, the word we're getting on the ground from benghazi it is calm. authorities are more in control. that is a good thing. the word also been getting on the ground here that the fb i-team sent to this country to investigate the crime has been hampered, maybe even blocked from the benghazi situation and the crime scene there. so that could help. overall, frankly also the public is going after the very militant group
consulate in benghazi a huge tragedy and says the libyan people lost a great friend in ambassador chris stevens. the remarks from libya's president comes as his government tries to rein in the power of various rebel groups that helped topple dictator muammar qaddafi. this development won't help. one of the libyan rebels that helped capture the dictator has been killed. the his relatives say he was tortured and shot in a rival town. now they threatening revenge. greg palkot streaming live from tripoli. >> reporter: jon, those close to the former rebel say he was killed by a qaddafi loyalist and they want action as a sign how unsettled things are. regarding that crackdown on militias we're getting signs it could be working. we've been seeing compounds here in tripoli where libyan security forces moved in forcing out militants. our contact in benghazi says that a key militia there appears to be going under government control. there are still many others here who say the extremist militants, some who might be tied to that consulate attack, are simply going underground taking some very dange
of this to include benghazi was preplanned. it's not spontaneous. megyn: so you're saying they are feeling more emboldened now, that they don't believe that the american superpower will strike back in the way we once would have? >> exactly. and, of course, our ability to do so isdiminished every time we pull more troops occupant of a place like afghanistan t. out of a place like afghanistan. the sad fact of it is that the mission of the u.s. u.s. marinen this case with the fast units being sent out are to protect diplomatic missions from this kind of assault. well, there's not quite enough marines to go around if that's what we're going to continue to do, cutting the budget. so places like sudan which turned down the introduction of a marine security guard detachment and the enhanced fast unit that was supposed to go out there, what we really ought to be doing is telling sudan no marines, no aid. and this administration isn't about to do that kind of thing because they can't even acknowledge that they failed, they failed in the basic requirements of preparing for the kind of demonstrations that
the appropriate steps. here's his answer. you're not trying to say there was enough security in benghazi, are you? >> i am simply saying this is a matter under investigation. it is an absolute tragedy that we lost four americans in benghazi, including our ambassador, including security personnel. and there's an active investigation underway into what happened and why and what the motivations were. and driven by the absolute commitment that this president made to finding who was responsible and holding them, keeping them -- holding them accountable and bringing them to justice. and i think that's very important. >> reporter: as for the contradiction between ambassador susan rice saying on five sunday news programs that, in fact, they believe these were not preplanned attacks and that the spark for all this was that anti-muslim video, that has been contradicted as you noted by the libyan president, other intelligence sources. jay carney today left the door open to the idea that the administration's story on this can change was he said -- because he said this investigation is still ongoing, but he s
when he denounced the violence on either venue. >> the at talks in attacks in benghazi were no doubt that it was a terror attack. >> are no doubt that the kinds of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault, that it wasn't just a mob action. what is clear is that around the world, there is still a lot of threats out there. megyn: coming up, a man that suggests the presence messaging may actually be making us look weak to the rest of the world. just ahead, lieutenant ralph peters joins us on what the president said this morning. just minutes ago. while the president decides not to describe the events in libya during a terrorist attack, his presidential challenger took a very different route. it appears that the mobile initiative was developed this morning. >> a lot of americans are troubled by developments in the middle east. syria has witnessed a killing of tens of thousands of people. and ambassador was assassinated. iran is moving towards nuclear weapons capability. we are at the mercy of events rather than shaping events. megyn: governor romney went on to describe what he called
extremists in an attack that began on september 11 at the consulate in benghazi, libya, were brought home. chris siebs played a key role to help free citizens from muammar gaddafi. foreign service information management officer sean smith joined the state department after six years in the air force and leighs behind a love -- leaves behind a loving wife and two small children. former navy seal glen doherty deployed to some of the most dangerous places on earth and was an experienced paramedic. tyrone woods sevened multiple tours in iraq and afghanistan and leaves behind a loving wife and three sons including one born a few months ago. all died in service to our country. they leave behind grieving families, friends, and colleagues. eric, today very, you know, sad day, just thinking about the live, the families, the friends, the americans, the value the service they have given to this country so faithfully and honorably. your thoughts on the me moral day. >> eric: hard to put in words, kim. the whole newsroom at that moment when we saw them starting to bring the casket in and the whole plac
and water cannons to keep protesters at bay. visiting the u.s. consulate in benghazi today expressing his sympathy for the killing of ambassador chris stevens there and three other americans earlier this week. we will try to keep a handle on this fast-breaking story as events in the middle east seem to be deteriorating but first right now brand new stories and breaking news. jenna: on that, the situation in the middle east shifting the focus on the campaign trail to foreign policy. governor romney trying to get back to talking about the economy. we're live in the key battleground states he is visiting today. also a guard held hostage at knifepoint for hours at a maximum security prison. you won't believe just how some other inmates helped to free him. >>> and apple known for its smash hit products but this might be a little ridiculous. amazing video of scenes ransacking an apple store that you got to see to believe. it is all happen -- "happening now." jenna: a lot of news and a lot of news sources today. we appreciate the time you're spending with us. happy friday to you, everybody. i'm
there in benghazi. >> steve: then you've got the interim libyan president going on tv saying it was preplanned. these people from out of town, i think it's al-qaeda. then people from the administration came out and said, i believe it was yesterday, said yeah, he's wrong because he doesn't have the same sources of intelligence that we do. i don't get that. he's there! >> i would trust the man on the ground, absolutely. you have to trust the guy on the ground. steve, this is very important for the obama administration because first and foremost, they misread the tea leaves. they misread this whole arab spring. they did not understand you have to fill a void of leadership in those countries. exact same thing when the shah of iran was deposed and you got the ayatollahs ayatollahs and hd hamas. so they can not all of a sudden have their failed policies, foreign policies really be seen as the reason why this has occurred. >> steve: i want to ask but something that mitt romney was caught on tape saying down there in boca a couple of months ago that. is essentially that 47% of the country not going to
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